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THE
CAREER
ECOSYSTEM

ERA

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ABOUT THE PODCAST
Transforming Career Ecosystems

The Career Ecosystem Era in Higher Education explores how colleges and universities are transforming career education to ensure every student is prepared for meaningful success after graduation. Each episode features leaders and innovators who are building stronger, more integrated career ecosystems on their campuses.

Hosted by Jeremy Podany, founder and CEO of The Career Leadership Collective and author of The Career Ecosystem Era in Higher Education, the podcast offers authentic stories, bold ideas, and practical strategies that drive systemic change across higher education.

The Career Ecosystem Era in Higher Education

Send us your career ecosystem questions, victories, and challenges so we can address them on the show by emailing us at podcast@careerleadershipcollective.com.

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EPISODES
The Career Ecosystem Era in Higher Education Podcast

Episode 18

Inside the Making of a Career Ecosystem: The UT Austin Series. Part 1: Laying the Foundation

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Guests

  • Michael Drew, Senior Vice Provost for Academic Affairs and Professor of Neuroscience, University of Texas at Austin

  • Daniel Liu, Assistant Vice Provost for Career Success, University of Texas at Austin

In This Episode

This episode kicks off our three-part series exploring the University of Texas at Austin's journey to build a campus-wide career ecosystem. Jeremy Podany sits down with Michael Drew, Senior Vice Provost for Academic Affairs, and Daniel Liu, Assistant Vice Provost for Career Success, to discuss how one of the nation's largest and most selective public universities is sparking change in colleges, among faculty, and with career professionals around a shared vision for student career success for all students. Together, they explore the challenges of leading change across a highly federated institution, why clarity of purpose and structure shape an ecosystem, and how intentional collaboration is creating a stronger value proposition for every Longhorn.

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 "Career learning should be like every other type of learning that happens on campus. If we want all students to benefit from it, we have to teach it the same way we teach everything else."

- Michael Drew, Senior Vice Provost for Academic Affairs and Professor of Neuroscience, The University of Texas at Austin​

Episode 17

Career Development Across the Student Experience

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Guests

  • Monique Frost, Consultant, The Career Leadership Collective

  • Drew Poppleton, AVP for Student Success, John Carroll University

  • Nikki Marzano, Director of Career Services, John Carroll University

In This Episode

In today’s episode, Nikki Marzano and Drew Poppleton from John Carroll University will  discuss the creation of a required four-year professional development program designed to ensure every student receives structured career support throughout their college journey. They share how they built campus-wide buy-in, aligned leadership around a common vision, and redesigned advising and career development systems to create a more equitable, scalable, and career-connected student experience. The episode offers a practical blueprint for institutions seeking to make career readiness a shared institutional responsibility rather than an optional service.

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"Urgency, authenticity, and inclusivity—those are the ingredients required to drive institutional change."

Drew Poppleton

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Episode 16

Measuring Embedded Career Learning

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Guests

  • Julieanne Cutrupi, Manager, UTS Careers, University of Technology, Sydney

  • Eva Chan, Career Development Manager, University of Technology, Sydney

In This Episode

What does it take to embed career development learning across an entire university—and prove that it works? In this episode, Jeremy sits down with Julienne Cutrupi and Eva Chan from the University of Technology Sydney to explore their multi-year journey from an opportunistic, opt-in model to a curriculum-embedded approach spanning 73 degree programs and 135 subjects, reaching approximately 33,500 students. Together, they unpack how a team of just 4.6 equivalent career professionals built this scalable career ecosystem, developed a framework for measuring its impact, and generated compelling evidence that embedded career education significantly improves students’ career understanding, clarity, and confidence.

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On Measurement: “It has helped us focus on student impact and why it matters. At one point, we were mostly reliant on anecdotes of our work. Leadership was impressed, but we didn’t have impact-based outcomes about embedded career learning. This has provided clarity to our academic colleagues about the difference being made for students.”

Julieanne Cutrupi, UTS Sydney

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Episode 15

What if Career Learning was Actually Built into College? 

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Guests

  • Nick Cattin, Senior Manager of Consulting, The Career Leadership Collective

  • Monique Frost, Consultant, The Career Leadership Collective

In This Episode

What if career learning was actually built into the college experience instead of remaining optional? In this episode, Jeremy Podany, Monique Frost, and Nick Cattin explore the growing movement toward embedded career learning and the strategic integration of career milestones across the student journey. Together, they unpack what meaningful career milestones look like, where colleges should embed them for maximum impact, and why the future of career readiness depends less on optional programming and more on intentional institutional design.

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"The future of career readiness is not about adding more optional programming around the edges of college. It’s about redesigning the student experience itself.”

Jeremy Podany

Episode 14

Intentional, Relationship-driven Approach to Integrated Career Learning Across the Entire Campus

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Guests

  • Jen Guyer-Wood, Associate Vice President of Life Design and Innovation at Macalester College

In This Episode

What does it actually look like to build a career ecosystem at a small liberal arts college — and how do you bring faculty, staff, alumni, and students along for the ride? In this episode, Jeremy Podany sits down with Jen Guyer-Wood, Associate Vice President of Life Design and Innovation at Macalester College, to explore how a 2,000-student campus in St. Paul, Minnesota has spent the last three years intentionally weaving career learning into the fabric of student life. Jen shares how a newly launched strategic plan, a realignment of Student Affairs under Academic Affairs, and a culture of deep relationships created the perfect conditions for systemic change. From a first-year "Strengths in Action" course to a brand-new "Engage" general education requirement — ensuring every student completes an applied learning experience — Jen unpacks the specific moves her team has made to embed career learning where students already are, rather than waiting for them to walk through the career center door.

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"I don't want to have another student say to me, 'I didn't know that Career Exploration Office existed.' We have to strategically be where the students are, we have to strategically embed those milestones."

Jen Guyer-Wood

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Episode 13

A Decade of Pursuing Skills Infusion and Career in the Classroom 

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Guests

  • Jim McAtee, Assistant Vice President for Career and Professional Development, Ball State University

  • David Hua, Associate Professor, Ball State University

In This Episode

This podcast episode featured a conversation between Nick Catton (Career Leadership Collective) and Ball State University leaders Jim McAtee (Assistant Vice President for Career and Professional Development) and David Hua (Associate Professor) about their decade-long journey transforming career services into a comprehensive career ecosystem serving 20,000 students across 7 academic colleges.

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"There's a third strategy [in reference to embedding career readiness across campus]...strategically building your ecosystem, so a student would have to work very, very hard to miss the content that we want them to have."

Jim McAtee

Episode 12

A Board of Trustees Perspective on Vision and Strategy for Career Ecosystems

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Guests

  • David Castagnetti, Prominent US Business Leader, Distinguished Public Servant, and Former Board of Trustees Member at Lake Forest College and the Norman Mineta Institute at SJSU

In This Episode

This podcast explores career ecosystems in higher education from a board of trustees perspective, featuring David Castagnetti discussing his deep experience as a trustee at multiple institutions. Jeremy and David discuss how trustees think strategically about career readiness within institutional mission, and what they can do for higher education as post-graduation success becomes increasingly important.

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"Make it (career readiness) a priority. Make it one of your 5 priorities that you care about. And make sure that it's reinforced with the executive leadership team. Everyday, if you are talking about it as the leader, guess what? People are gonna pay attention."

David Castagnetti

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Episode 11

Has Your Institution Defined Career Learning?

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Guests

  • Nick Cattin, Senior Manager of Consulting, The Career Leadership Collective

  • Monique Frost, Consultant, The Career Leadership Collective

In This Episode

In this podcast, Jeremy, Monique, and Nick discuss why and how colleges must define career learning outcomes to create systemic change in career preparation. Without definition, campuses may experience fragmentation, confusion, and uneven student experiences. And now more than ever, both parents and students expect clarity on what career preparation they're receiving.

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"If you want systemic change to occur...you have to define it. You have to script the path for success."

Jeremy Podany

Episode 10

Building a Trackable and Measurable Career Ecosystem

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Guests

Dr. Tammy Wyatt, Senior Vice Provost for Student Success, University of Texas San Antonio

In This Episode

Career learning is evolving from optional, opt-in services to embedded experiences that reach every student. Dr. Wyatt explains how UTSA developed their "Future Ready Roadrunners" philosophy, which focuses on academic strength, professional preparation, and personal development for all students, and the key focus areas driving the success of this effort.

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"Every student should graduate academically strong, professionally prepared, and personally equipped to thrive."

Dr. Tammy Wyatt

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Episode 9

Embedding AI to Increase Competitiveness in the Job Market and Workplace

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Guests

David Marchick, Dean, Kogod School of Business, American University

In This Episode

Bloomberg called The Kogod School of Business at American University the “first AI-first business school”, embedding artificial intelligence across every department, degree, major, and minor. Jeremy and Dean David Marchick discuss why AI innovation is important, how it can be a key component of an integrated career learning ecosystem, and early insights AI infusion is having on student career confidence, enthusiasm, and outcomes.

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"I feel like our faculty have built trust, energy, and enthusiasm among our student body and at AU [regarding AI]. There's a buzz here. I wish I could take credit for it, but all I did was try to create an environment of yes. What our faculty's doing here is really innovative, and in my view, it's going to lead to better outcomes for our students, which is the most important thing."

- David Marchick

Episode 8

How to 'Hack' a Career Ecosystem

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Guests

Scott Carlson, Senior Writer, The Chronicle of Higher Education, and Co-Author of Hacking College

In This Episode

Sensemaking. Leveraging blank spaces. Navigating the curricular maze. These are among the concepts Scott Carlson unpacks in the book Hacking College with co-author Ned Laff. In this episode, Jeremy and Scott discuss philosophical approaches to systematically helping students make the most of college and practical tips for academic advisors, senior leaders, and career centers to continue finding beauty in their work as they develop their career ecosystem. Hacking College is a must-read for any campus building out a sophisticated career ecosystem. 

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 “We are at a time in higher education where a lot of people are talking about what a broken system it is. We know we have to do something about student futures, and we have an opportunity to marshal resources to ask big questions about what the beauty of higher education is that goes beyond just, ‘we are going to get you a job?”

- Scott Carlson

Episode 7

An Institutional Career Learning Pledge

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Guests

Dr. Ora Hirsch Pescovitz, President of Oakland University

In This Episode

What aspects of career learning should not be left to chance in the college student experience? President Pescovitz and her campus community have embedded career learning into multiple aspects of the student experience, and have recently launched the OU Pledge, an initiative to ensure that every Oakland University student receives hands-on or experiential learning. They are embracing the career ecosystem era, leaning into career readiness and affordability, and joining college and university leaders across the country who are seeking to institutionalize the career learning that matters most to students and families.

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 “We believe experiential learning is in the best interest of our students. We have built a system where students engage in at least one and hopefully more than one hands-on experience, and we are now involved with thousands of companies that help to accomplish this.”

- Dr. Ora Hirsch Pescovitz

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Episode 6

Top 5 Most Important Career Readiness Trends for Higher Education in 2026

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Guests

Jeremy is the sole speaker on this episode, providing a rare trends talk for listeners.

In This Episode

Welcome to 2026! In this no-guest episode, Jeremy Podany elaborates on the five most important career readiness trends shaping higher education in 2026. He explores what the field is moving away from, toward, and doubling down on, as well as the spark that is needed to catalyze it all. The episode highlights why career learning is no longer optional, how ROI pressures are accelerating change, and what senior campus leaders can and must do now to prepare every student for long-term career success. This is a forward-looking conversation for anyone responsible for the future of student career outcomes.

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 “We’re moving from a world of career centers doing great work for some students to career ecosystems that work for all students….”

- Jeremy Podany

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  • The Blog Post that started The Collective in 2017. 

Episode 5


The Big Dilemma: Reach 

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Guests

Nick Cattin, Senior Manager of Consulting, The Career Leadership Collective

Monique Frost, Consultant, The Career Leadership Collective 

In This Episode

Jeremy is joined by two of his consulting colleagues from The Collective as they openly discuss the dilemma many colleges and universities face when trying to reach more students within their current career center model. They discuss how to refine ecosystem efforts to effectively support students' learning. 

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“We are seeing ‘career success’ become a large market factor in why students and families choose their colleges…and career centers are compelled to reach more students…but what happens if all the students come to the career center?”

- Jeremy Podany

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  • Dream School by Jeff Selingo

Episode 4

Conceptualizing and Activating a Career Ecosystem with Faculty (Part 2)

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Guests

Dr. Monica Roth Day, Faculty Director of The Career Readiness Project and Social Work Faculty, Metro State University

Dr. Caitlin Mahoney, Associate Professor of Psychology, Metro State University 

In This Episode

Many faculty at Metro State University in Minneapolis, MN, have come together in a community of practice to cultivate a more integrated career ecosystem to benefit their students. In part two of this series, two faculty members dig into what they developed, how they integrated career readiness, the results they are seeing with students, and the joy and further curiosity it has brought them. 

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"Our faculty fellows career readiness cohort created and discussed teaching artifacts that can serve as examples for other faculty about how to do this work easily and effectively…it’s been motivating during a time in higher education where it's been hard to find motivation."

- Dr. Monica Roth Day, Faculty Director of The Career

Readiness Project and Social Work Faculty, Metro State University

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Episode 3

Conceptualizing and Activating a Career Ecosystem with Faculty (Part 1)

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Guests

Dr. Monica Roth Day, Faculty Director of The Career Readiness Project and Social Work Faculty, Metro State University

Bill Baldus, Career Center Director, Metro State University

In This Episode

Metro State University in Minneapolis, MN, has built a career education model where faculty are not only involved but feel a sense of ownership. The Career Center has intentionally repositioned itself from the primary service provider to a catalyst for change, empowering faculty to integrate career development directly into the curriculum. Learn how their Faculty Work Group from diverse disciplines shifted faculty mindset toward emphasizing the career relevance of their coursework and the implementation of small, incremental curriculum changes that make career learning more transparent for students.

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"Faculty now have a community of practice on career readiness."

- Dr. Monica Roth Day, Faculty Director of The Career

Readiness Project and Social Work Faculty, Metro State University

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Episode 2

Building an Ecosystem to Help Students Explore What Kind of Life They Want to Lead

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Guests

Adam Weinberg, President, Denison University

In This Episode

College Presidents are more in tune than ever before with the need for and benefits of building a strong and effective career readiness ecosystem on their campus. In this episode, President Weinberg speaks to important topics such as why we need to act, how to gain faculty buy-in, skills infusion, bold commitments, career readiness AND a liberal arts education simultaneously, building public trust through career preparation, measurement, and his hopes for the future of higher education. 

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“When we put our flag in the ground and said that we were going to redefine how we prepare students for careers, we stepped back and said, ‘What are the right questions?"

- Adam Weinberg, President, Denison University 

Episode 1

The Big Shift to Career Ecosystems

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Guests

Nick Cattin, Senior Manager of Consulting, The Career Leadership Collective

Monique Frost, Consultant, The Career Leadership Collective 

In This Episode

Once upon a time, just having a career center was enough to satisfy and impress students and families. Today? Not even close. In Episode 1 of The Career Ecosystem Era in Higher Education Podcast, Jeremy chats with his colleagues at The Collective to unpack the big shift toward Career Ecosystems—and why it’s one of the most important transitions higher education can make right now.

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“A Career Ecosystem is way more than a buzzword; it's a movement. That’s why we started this podcast.”

- Jeremy Podany

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